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I got my Ph.D. today in 2008, which seems like a long time ago. I’m only 75% convinced it was a good idea. I think things would have better if I didn’t graduate right before a recession. For the majority of the time since then I have been employed at the level I should be. Today, I had a phone interview and an on-site interview scheduled for next week so things are still progressing. It would be great if one of those turns into a real job but who knows.
 
 
On an unrelated note, I watched this week’s episode of Catfish last night. It was all about a girl, Sammie, who was semi-stalking barely famous actresses/singers on Twitter. She was making up other profiles, promoting their independent movies, and speaking with the women directly online. The main woman, Tracie, said Sammie was so good at promoting of her work that she considered hiring her. That all went downhill when Sammie introduced Tracie to her best friend. Reese. They all talked online. One day Sammie said Reese was in the hospital (Tracie knew Reese had cancer) and later died. A funny thing happened when Reese favorited an RIP tweet. Yep, after she died she still had access to a Twitter account. That was removed and soon after all the past tweets from Reese and Sammie disappeared from Twitter. Other things occurred like funeral videos and creepy poems. With some checking, Tracie confirmed that Reese did not exist. Tracie contacted the show to find out what happened to Sammie and if she was still around under a new name. It was a complex episode. I suggest you watch it.
 
 
I was thinking about how I need fans. People should be writing poems and such for me just because. I’m not famous so I don’t know how I can accomplish this. Maybe when I get my next real job I will have time to seek semi-fame.

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As I was being driven to the airport back from another on-site interview, I thought about how there were good and bad parts to this process that non-PhDs may not know about.  I often think of this when my Facebook “friends” post about their job interviews.  First, let me outline the general steps to the Ph.D. / graduate level hiring process.

  1. Phone screening with HR/Recruiter.
  2. Phone interview with Hiring Manager.
  3. On-site interview.

The level of stress only seems to increase as you get down the line.  You would think that as you got closer to getting that job things would feel better but not so.  My degree is in chemistry so I will be looking at it from the science side of things.  I’m sure there are differences between other fields and career stages.  I am still at the beginning of my career so my problem is everyone wants experience which is difficult to get when you are not that far removed from schooling.

 

Step 1:  HR and Recruiters

99.9% of the time, they are not scientists so there is only so much they can ask you as far as prescreening questions.  I think they usually write down your answers to questions the Hiring Manager gave them.  I had one call when the person said they were typing my responses so if there was a time they said nothing it wasn’t because I said something wrong.  This is also the time you get the “What is your biggest strength/weakness?” type questions.  After this you wait days, weeks, maybe a month to hear you are moving on to the next round.  You are one step closer to being America’s Top Model (I don’t even know if that show is still on).

 

Step 2:  Hiring Manager

Now this person is the potential boss or a high level co-worker who knows exactly what they are looking for in the position.  You don’t so that’s part of the fun/stress I suppose.  Sometimes it’s a group of people on the phone call so you get a range of voices coming at you with questions.  You hope it is done in an orderly fashion but sometimes it’s not.  Questions at this stage can be much more or only slightly more technical than the phone screening.  It really just depends.  The worst thing is getting someone that you can barely understand.  If you didn’t know, the majority of graduate chemistry programs in the United States have lots more non-Americans in them than Americans, therefore, most of the people out there with a Masters or Doctorate are not American.  I have known people from in these programs that have perfect English and you know every word they say face-to-face.  But getting those people on the phone is completely different.  And in this situation, let’s add that it may be speaker phone.  Asking for people to repeat themselves over and over again just gets tiresome for you and them.  Adding to this could be the person’s ability to work the equipment they are using so volumes are low or high.  Once you get through this stage you probably have more of a feeling what they are looking for.  Their questions may focus in on a specific project or area you worked.  That or that person did something similar to that and they just wanted to talk about it.  At the end of this, you may have to wait even longer to hear anything.  I would say weeks not days.  I usually ask them for a timeline before the call is ended so when that passes you can email whoever to find out the status.

 

Step 3: On-site Interview

If you are lucky enough to beat out hundreds of people to get to this point you know you are in good shape.  I would guess companies bring in the top 5 people at this stage.  For me this is the best and worst part of the whole experience.  Best part for me is the travel.  The majority of the time the company pays for your flight, hotel, meals, and sometimes rents you a car.  It can be tricky to arrange travel.  I imagine if you live in Hawaii it could be very expensive.  The hotels you get are so nice because they want to kind of impress you with the company and how they treat you is definitely part of it.  I’ve been to some really nice places.  Many of the states I have been to are because I was there for an interview, work, or school activities which I marked on the map below.

US Map - Interview Locations

The worst part is the full day of an interview.  Most often they fly you in the night before your actual interview.  I’ve had interviews that were only a few hours and then you are left to do what you want.  Others are a 9am to 3 or 5pm series of interviews with several people in the company.  At some point at the graduate level you are expected to give a 30-45 min presentation on your research experience particularly related to what they do or the job description.  I don’t really mind the presentation as much because I worry about the questions I will get either at the end (or during) my presentation. To illustrate the range of questions I get let’s take this scenario.  You have spent the last 4-5 years of your life studying apples.  You know several ways to use apples and the various parts of apples (skin, core, seeds, etc.).  You gave the best presentation ever and you ask for questions.

 

Expect to get questions like:

  • What country do apples come from?  I wonder how popular apples are in other countries.
  • Do you work with apple sauce?  I really like that.
  • Does the US grow more apples or oranges?
  • Could you genetically modify apples to make them white on the outside and red on the inside?
  • What is your favorite type of apple?

 

The presentation can be at any time of the day.  I prefer early so people can ask you questions about it when they meet you later on instead of them saying:  I don’t know if you are going to talk about this later but…  One-on-one meetings can be conversational or they show you a problem written on a piece of paper that they want you to work out.  Depending on the amount of time you are there, you may be taken out for lunch and/or dinner.  Then you have to find things to talk about with one or more strangers.  I like to talk about general things and ask about the area (housing, food, etc.).  Being an introvert as I am it takes some work on my part to get through this type of day.  To be constantly talking for 8 hours unless you are a teacher can be difficult.  The whole day is to decide if you can fit into the company culture and do the job.  By the end of the day I usually have a headache.  If you are lucky you get an extra night in the hotel to recover, if not you go directly to the airport.

Since I’m still in the process, I’m not trying to give advice on how to handle it all.  I just have had lots of experience with it and thought I would give insight to the people outside on what it is like in case they wondered.

Preparation for Unemployment

I have 41 days until I will be unemployed…again. I am under contract for my current job but I am almost at the limit of contract renewals. Originally, it was a 2 year contract but it has turned into 4 years there. So I’ve just been looking for the next job but quickly running out of time. I thought I would do a little section on my plans and experiences leading to and during unemployment. Before, I got this job I was unemployed for about a year right after graduation, so at least I know what to expect. But, at that time I was in another state and didn’t make enough to qualify for unemployment. I haven’t even looked into unemployment here yet. I planned to start that in June.

One of the things that people tell me as a good thing is that I do get interviews. I probably get some kind of interview (phone or on-site) every couple of weeks which I guess seems good but without results doesn’t seem to matter much. At the moment I am waiting to hear from a job I did an on-site interview for and I have a phone interview with another company this coming week. The only nice thing about having a graduate degree in the interview process is that most places pay for you to do an on-site interview. You get flown out, put up in a hotel, and sometimes they give you a rental car.

Between now and then, I want to go through all my stuff and get rid of what I don’t need. I have so much useless stuff and I’m not even that old. Also, I need to figure out what I need to stock up on that I will not be able to afford later on such as prescriptions and car maintenance. The down side to being unemployed before was a huge weight gain. I spent all this time losing weight (26 lbs since September) so this time I need to keep exercising thought the whole time.

Feel free to comment about your experiences and such.

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